Posted: 5/16/2007 Post subject: What makes good erotic writing?
Writing and publishing good erotica: being creative with your sexuality, spreading your vision, not only getting turned on yourself (and who doesn't?) but mind-fucking a whole audience, the ultimate cybersex?
The worst erotic writing is the boring accounts of who did what, following down a well trodden path of: chance encounter, clothes off, sex, orgasms, then some limp and flaccid ending. Yaaawwwwn!!!
The best erotic writing carries tension, shock, and something new, some new avenue of human experience. The story must be unique, memorable, and somehow outrageous. It must twist and turn, and go beyond the sexual. You must read a great story, and co-incidentally be turned on like hell.
Like good sex it must challenge and tease, but always promise and deliver satisfaction. So, writers, what ingredients make good stories? And will there come a day when the catalogue of every available sexual plot has been used up, the genre becomes worn-out and saturated, and erotic writing is dead? Has that time come already?
I agree with you. I believe that a story has to have an extra little spice that keeps people interested. Not just sex. I think just sex is a bit dry and boring. A story that goes with it, in depth, with feeling and passion. In all the stories I write I add a story, something that, when I read it again, it makes me get a little teary. I, personally, like sad stories. But I don't think erotica with go out. As long as people are horny, people will have the drive to write stories. _________________ "I met my love before I was born. He wanted love. I taste of blood. He bit my lip and drank my war from years before."
Posted: 5/18/2007 Post subject: Re: What makes good erotic writing?
slimbi99 wrote:
The worst erotic writing is the boring accounts of who did what, following down a well trodden path of: chance encounter, clothes off, sex, orgasms, then some limp and flaccid ending. Yaaawwwwn!!!
I saw an interview once with one of my favorite porn stars, Hunter Scott (all those lovely muscles covered in all that lovely dark hair!! ) and he said that "There's sex with your dick hard, and there's sex with your mind...totally different."
To me at least, The physicality of erotic writing is limited by the physicality of the human body - there are only so many orifices and only so many things/objects to insert into them. Sex with the mind and with the emotions - now there are some infinite possibilities... _________________ "Lift ev'ry voice and Sing, 'till Earth and Heaven ring..."
- James Rosamund Johnson
personally i need a back story to really get to know the charachters.
and also, i see so many new stories posted that are just a mess as far as grammar. i cant stand a few things, like bad names, when there's no flow, things get choppy.
and most especially when its obvious the writer has NO idea what theyre doing...like "he sucked my 26 inch dick"
thats not sexy...its dumb. _________________ "I love it when people give up chocolate for lent...OHHH just like being nailed to a cross...hey God, get over here we gotta open up the Pearly Gates, this bitch is going like 40 days without a Kit Kat Bar!"
As a writer who writes epics - because without a plot and chaacter development and interaction and thus the MIND the sex is just boring pish - I say that there is no organ sexier than the brain. The rest is merely physical functining. _________________ Military Gay Erotic Fiction
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with erotic literature you're dealing with emotion and desire, things that invite descriptive and inventive language. ADJECTIVES ADJECTIVES ADJECTIVES. But only when well used.
with erotic literature you're dealing with emotion and desire, things that invite descriptive and inventive language. ADJECTIVES ADJECTIVES ADJECTIVES. But only when well used.
Now that's a challenge. I don't agree. The real skill is to avoid adjectives and paint a picture with simple narrative and vivid description.
Read some Hemingway!
I'm going to write an erotic tale which doesn't use a single adjective. Watch this space!
you got me there. 'A Call To Arms' is one of my favourites. I still think well put descriptie language enhances a narrative, but I might try the same and do something without adjectives.
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Posted: 10/3/2008 Post subject:
I read a web page where someone said, "Erotica is porn with a plot and characters." That might be a good starting point, but I don't totally agree.
I worried over this very question before posting my first story. I want my readers to care about the people in the story. Whether the reader likes or hates the characters is irrelevent as long as I'm provoking some kind of response.
After reading some of the stories here I started wondering if that would be appropriate. Should I hack out the human element and see how cleverly I could use adjectives and euphemisms? I decided against it. If my stories have too much humanity and too little sex I'm sure people will let me know. I'm working for a middle ground. I want the readers to be aroused but I want them to feel part of my character's lives.
BTW, please read my story "The Awakening Part I" and tell me what you think.
As an added point I don't think we'll ever run out of material.
And I haven't read Hemingway in years. It's time to refresh my memory.
BTW, please read my story "The Awakening Part I" and tell me what you think.
Just finished the story - GREAT STUFF - check it out, guys - it's well worth the time! _________________ "Lift ev'ry voice and Sing, 'till Earth and Heaven ring..."
- James Rosamund Johnson
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Posted: 11/21/2008 Post subject:
I think when it comes to writing erotica there are two types of stories and both can be equally decent. The first is the one shot short story. Let's face it the large majority of people that read online erotica read it because they want to get off. A short story is often the best method for that -- log on, read a few pages, get off, log off. There is a lot of people who like that sort of thing and it is still possible to write a decently interesting story in one shot that way. I think with stories like that the most important thing is hitting the right erotic buttons / scenarios for your target audience. Everyone describes things in different ways and so I would say that the same physical act can be completely different depending on the writer. (I.E. Anne Rice writing a love scene is far different than Michael Crichton).
The second type of story, and the one I prefer writing, is the long one that has well-developed characters. I get turned on much more by a character that I know engaging in romantic acts with other characters that I also know. Short sex stories are good when I want to get off -- but, just like video porn, after awhile it's all just the same stuff. I find that when I have an insight into the mind and method of a character I am turned on much more. Consider this scenario: you are writing a story about a straight man experiencing sex for the first time. If you use the first story you could simply say "he had never had sex before" and put him in the situation. It would be erotic, and probably get a lot of guys off. But, on the other hand, if you were to spend some time explaining how straight he is and what his mentality about gay sex is -- when things start actually happening it will be even more erotic.
Suffice it to say -- I appreciate both forms of erotic writing but I think well-developed characters and interesting stories (the kind that make you want to find out what happens next) are what make ANY form of narrative fiction worth it.
I've written four stories, 2 of which are still waiting to be published, and I always try to give the characters a lot of detail and depth. However, I find that I write better when I'm really horny. If I'm not then all I can get out of my brain is crap. So I don't jerk off or have sex for like a week or two, then I write my stories. But it feels like they end too soon sometimes. Like I didn't add enough detail to make it hot enough. I always feel like my work could be better or hotter somehow.
... But it feels like they end too soon sometimes...
(sigh...) good stories are like good sex - it usually does end too soon... _________________ "Lift ev'ry voice and Sing, 'till Earth and Heaven ring..."
- James Rosamund Johnson
I have read many stories on this site, and I find the ones that dive right into sex in the first few paragraphs a bit dull. I also find long description of sexual acts, and, lots of variations of words for a hard cock, or an asshole kind of pointless.
I think keeping it as close to being "real" is what a writer should go for. Build up to the climax, but don't over do it with lots of lame description. I find describing someones asshole, it's color, and scent, a bit too much.
And, I have read so many uses to describe a hard cock, that I am allways amazed that someone comes up with something new. But, I still find it pointless.
Suspence is the key to keep a reader interested in a story.
Where one seemingly innocent occurrance leads to something a bit less innocent, followed by, and I can't believe that just happened, and then Oh my god that's just wild. To the I wonder what's going to happen next. Make them want to read more to find out.
This is what I am doing with my current story. "Tricked Into Gay Sex." I am also using charators that you can believe in...Because I have taken them from my own past.
I take a few Guys I have met, and add ones that I would like to meet. Or, Maybe I have done them all.
I am the writer, and, I want you to believe what I am writing. It does not work if you don't believe what you are writing, and your readers won't believe it either.
I'll tell you one thing. I could never write a story about straight sex. Because I have no idea what kind of emotions women have during sex...so how could I write about it? I certainly know what men want. That's what makes it so easy!
What do you think? _________________ Tighty Whiteys Rule!
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