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mychael_black
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject: Speaking of cliches...

What are some of your pet peeves when it comes to cliches in gay porn/erotica (no matter the author's gender)? _________________ "There is but one temple in the universe and that is the body of man." ~ Novalis, German Lyric Poet, 1772 - 1801 ~ *** http://www.mychaelblack.com http://mychael-black2.livejournal.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theprinces...

WillYUM
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

i cant stand when something mundane turns me off. like a story i just read had something about a grandmother being really old and living alone, it made me feel awful cause i lost my own grandmother a few years ago. i finished the story but it was just lacking. when i write i try and be considerate and not mention things like that. _________________ "I love it when people give up chocolate for lent...OHHH just like being nailed to a cross...hey God, get over here we gotta open up the Pearly Gates, this bitch is going like 40 days without a Kit Kat Bar!"

mychael_black
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

nods Makes sense. One thing I've learned from my editors is to not dwell on things that don't advance the plot. _________________ "There is but one temple in the universe and that is the body of man." ~ Novalis, German Lyric Poet, 1772 - 1801 ~ *** http://www.mychaelblack.com http://mychael-black2.livejournal.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theprinces...

WillYUM
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

can we start telling more people that? a cliche i cant stand is the femmy guy one. blegh. _________________ "I love it when people give up chocolate for lent...OHHH just like being nailed to a cross...hey God, get over here we gotta open up the Pearly Gates, this bitch is going like 40 days without a Kit Kat Bar!"

mychael_black
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

I've been known to point out such instances in the works I edit. They're those bits of prose that leave you going: O.o HUH?! LOL I'm not big on feminine guys myself. Most of mine end up broody, growly, or God knows what else. _________________ "There is but one temple in the universe and that is the body of man." ~ Novalis, German Lyric Poet, 1772 - 1801 ~ *** http://www.mychaelblack.com http://mychael-black2.livejournal.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theprinces...

WillYUM
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

mmmm i love a mean hardcore fag. im not feminine at all, but im short and skinny and hyper active, so people always seem to know. _________________ "I love it when people give up chocolate for lent...OHHH just like being nailed to a cross...hey God, get over here we gotta open up the Pearly Gates, this bitch is going like 40 days without a Kit Kat Bar!"

mychael_black
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

LOL Hell, one of my best friends is about the same: short, skinny, and hyper as hell. And I tease him about bursting into flames, but in truth, he's not a flamer, nor is he femme. But Lord...you just gotta talk to him to know he's queer as a football bat. LOL _________________ "There is but one temple in the universe and that is the body of man." ~ Novalis, German Lyric Poet, 1772 - 1801 ~ *** http://www.mychaelblack.com http://mychael-black2.livejournal.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theprinces...

WillYUM
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

sounds like me, but i play it hetero when im talking to most people. _________________ "I love it when people give up chocolate for lent...OHHH just like being nailed to a cross...hey God, get over here we gotta open up the Pearly Gates, this bitch is going like 40 days without a Kit Kat Bar!"

mychael_black
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

Most of the gay men I know do, too. Actually, come to think of it, I don't have contact with any flamers anymore. Knew one down in Alabama (he was a friend of my mom's), but we lost touch years ago when we moved up here. Stereotypes of gay men in general bug the piss outta me. _________________ "There is but one temple in the universe and that is the body of man." ~ Novalis, German Lyric Poet, 1772 - 1801 ~ *** http://www.mychaelblack.com http://mychael-black2.livejournal.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theprinces...

WillYUM
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

tv shows dont help it much. i cant stand the show will and grace. cause jack is so fucking annoying. and then the whole 'queer eye for the straight guy' thats such bullshit. that came out when i was in high school and it sucked. my girl friends asumed i wanted to go shopping with them and shit. the fuck. id rather buy myself clothes. and every fat chick asked me to take them to prom. ugh. _________________ "I love it when people give up chocolate for lent...OHHH just like being nailed to a cross...hey God, get over here we gotta open up the Pearly Gates, this bitch is going like 40 days without a Kit Kat Bar!"

mychael_black
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Posted: 6/21/2007 Post subject:

Oh, God. LOL No. Media does NOT help with the stereotypes. Last I checked, the majority of my friends are NOT the shopping type. In fact, they go only when they HAVE to. LOL _________________ "There is but one temple in the universe and that is the body of man." ~ Novalis, German Lyric Poet, 1772 - 1801 ~ *** http://www.mychaelblack.com http://mychael-black2.livejournal.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theprinces...

mskimberli
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Posted: 6/30/2007 Post subject:

WillYUM wrote:

tv shows dont help it much. i cant stand the show will and grace. cause jack is so fucking annoying. and then the whole 'queer eye for the straight guy' thats such bullshit. that came out when i was in high school and it sucked. my girl friends asumed i wanted to go shopping with them and shit. the fuck. id rather buy myself clothes. and every fat chick asked me to take them to prom. ugh.

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Damn, I feel bad, because I liked both shows...I thought Jack and Karen's character made the show funny. And I've received some really great decorating tips from Thom on Queer Eye.

I've always heard that gay men loved to shop, but I don't know any gay men, so I wasn't sure if that was true or not. Thanks for opening my eyes.

I've been on this site for little over an hour and after reading some of the stuff posted, I must say that I have learned a lot.

Thanks.

WillYUM
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Posted: 7/1/2007 Post subject:

i can see how the show is entertaining to most people, and i dont take it personally, but i just have such a bad taste in my mouth after being compared to all the fags on tv. i cant cook, i cant decorate, i shop at outlet stores and i couldnt give a shit about my hair. its all just a sterotype and its annoying. _________________ "I love it when people give up chocolate for lent...OHHH just like being nailed to a cross...hey God, get over here we gotta open up the Pearly Gates, this bitch is going like 40 days without a Kit Kat Bar!"

mskimberli
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Posted: 7/1/2007 Post subject: Oops!

WillYUM wrote:

i can see how the show is entertaining to most people, and i dont take it personally, but i just have such a bad taste in my mouth after being compared to all the fags on tv. i cant cook, i cant decorate, i shop at outlet stores and i couldnt give a shit about my hair. its all just a sterotype and its annoying.

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Oh, wow. I probably shouldn't have made the decorating tips comment...I apologize if I've offended you in any way. I just don't know. I can see the point you're making. It's like when my lab partner changes her radio station when it's her turn to drive us to class. She automatically assumes that b/c i'm an African, I listen to rap music. I loathe hip hop music.

mskimberli
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Posted: 7/1/2007 Post subject: Just a few questions....

These questions are to anyone who wishes to answer... What's a 'flamer?' Is that what they call the slightly feminine gay men? What are 'poppers'? I've read somewhere that some gay men use them during sex. Is that true? I have NO idea of what that is. And what does it mean to 'breed' a man? My friend saw a DVD on the adult shelf, saying something about a guy looking to hook up with as many guys as possible to 'breed' him. And what does it mean when a gay man is referred to as being a 'Bear'? Or a 'cub?' And what the hell is a 'Twink'? If i'm asking too many questions, or if they annoy or offend any of you guys, let me know. I was just curious as to the meaning of these words/labels and I don't know who else to ask.

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